that it was two more years before i trusted god enough to dip my toe in the adoption pond

and and meet with a social worker and say i know best case scenario is that children get a mom and a dad with skin on.

But if there's a child who doesn't have much of a shot at getting out of an orphanage

or nobody stands in line for them, if there's a child like that, and the Lord says so, would you put me in that line?

Welcome to the Reith Joe Simon's podcast. In celebration of Mother's Day this month, I'm sitting down to talk about the wild

and wonderful journey of motherhood with a handful of friends in various stages of life.

Today's conversation is with my friend Lisa Harper, who is a Bible teacher, author, and

podcaster, and I think you're going to be so encouraged by her as she shares her motherhood journey through adoption.

Well, Ms. Lisa Harper, welcome to the Rist Joe Simon's podcast.

I am so excited to have you.

Oh, I just feel like I got asked to the prom by like the quarterback of the football team.

It's so excited.

I love you and I love this podcast.

So thank you.

Huge deal to get to be sitting across from you today.

Well, friend, you are that sister that I wish I could spend every afternoon,

sipping a little coffee, going on a walk, just chit-chatting all the time.

And so every time I'm with you, I feel not just loved on by a big sister,

not just spurred on, encouraged, but I'm challenged. I see with your life and with your joy

characteristics on display that I hope to kind of carry on myself in my ministry and in my life.

So thank you for just being an example to so many of us and for being that person who,

when I think of you, Lisa, I think, how is it that her love for Jesus is so rich that joy is

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