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It's very difficult to keep the line between the past and the present.

You believe that someone out of the past can enter and take possession of a living being?

We may be true with the past, but the past is not through with us.

Welcome back to the next picture show, a movie of the week podcast devoted to a classic film and the way it shaped our thoughts on a recent release.

I'm Tasha Robinson, here again with Scott Tobias, Rachel Handler, and Keith Phipps, plus producer Genevieve Kosky waxing the boards behind the scenes.

This week we're talking about Robert Eggers' new suspense movie of The Witch and Robin Hardy's 1973 movie The Wicker Man, two films about

superstition, dread, child sacrifice, spring hairs turning up where hairs shouldn't be,

and people singing creepy songs. The films have a lot of small things in common, including

a stiff-necked, proud Christian character who brings on his own fate but doesn't necessarily

deserve it, and a conflict between a Christian element

associated with civilization in the future and a pagan element associated with nature in the

wilds. They're also both fundamentally conspiracy films, where dark element stalks its

oblivious victims, and viewers spend most of the film knowing something horrible is coming without

necessarily knowing what that is. So in this half of the podcast, we're going to dig into those connections, consider whether scary

and horrifying or related at all, and look at what these two movies have to say, both about the

errors in which they were made and about the errors they're meant to be portraying.

Black Phillips if you are wicked.

Cut from him.

Does he really speak to me This wilderness will not consume us

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