I used to use an analogy about, you know, living at base camp.

So you can live at base camp, but you can't live at the peak of Mount Everest, right?

So you want to be able to set yourself up with a pretty sturdy, you know, campsite.

And, you know, for me, I think the whole concept of getting to stage, too,

is about that ability to live at campsite for, burst to the summit, peak at the top,

then get back down before you kill yourself. Hey, welcome to the muscle intelligence podcast.

I'm your host, Ben Pekolsky.

Today's guest is an incredibly successful fitness model.

She's an incredibly successful online coach with literally hundreds of wins,

hundreds of pro cards, hundreds of pro athletes. And all around,

the reason I had decided to have this guest on is because she just is a good person. And I wanted

to dig into how she manages to maintain such a successful coaching roster and a great outlook

on life while she continues to push yourself through trials,

tribulations, and hardships like we all have. And I've had the amazing pleasure of coaching and

working with Alicia Gowens for the last few months and just really love her energy and her outlook.

And I know you will too. And some of the topics we get into today are the necessity of persistence and success.

And like when obstacles arise and things get hard, knowing that you can persist through anything

and understanding that your obstacle is your greatest opportunity for growth.

We talk about commitment. We talk about being a great

human being. And she has an incredible insight into all of these aspects of ultimately not just

creating a body that you love, but living your greatest life because mindset plays a huge role

in not only success in your physical body, but success in every aspect of your life, right?

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