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Hello and welcome to our national conversation about conversations about race,

the biweekly multiracial podcast where we discuss the ways we can't talk, don't talk,

would rather not talk, but intermittently, fitfully, embarrassingly do talk about culture, identity,

politics, power, and privilege in our pre-post, yet still very racial America.

You could say all that, or you could just call us about race.

I'm Tanner Colby, and here with me in the Panoply Studios in New York are my co-discussants.

Raquel Cepeda.

Hello, Raquel.

Hello.

And our very special guest, Rebecca Carroll, columnist for The Guardian, and author of several narrative nonfiction books about race in America, including the award-winning Sugar in the Raw.

Welcome to the show, Rebecca.

Thank you for joining us.

Thank you.

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