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The Art of Catholic with Matthew Leonard

015: Exploring The Mystery of Redemptive Suffering with Jeff Cavins

The Art of Catholic with Matthew Leonard

Matthew Leonard

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.9 • 831 Ratings

šŸ—“ļø 14 October 2015

ā±ļø 62 minutes

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Summary

You can have all the money in the world, but you can't buy suffering insurance. Doesn't matter if you're Catholic, Protestant, Pagan or Martian. Everybody experiences it. And when Jesus offered himself back to the Father for our sake, he didn't merely deal with the consequences of sin. Rather, he struckĀ at the root of suffering - Original Sin - the sin of Adam. But heĀ did it in a way that seems crazy in the eyes of the world. He took the very consequences of sin - suffering and death - experienced them as one of us, and made them the path to salvation. This is the mystery of the Cross...a mystery he invites us into through Redemptive Suffering. To dig into this deep subject, I brought in Jeff Cavins. You may know Jeff from his stint as host on EWTN'sĀ Life on the Rock, or his Bible Timeline videos, or even his books and speaking gigs. He's one of the most well-known Catholic evangelists in the world. And his preferred topic is suffering. Why? Because as he'll share, he's suffered. And he knows you do, too. But he also knows the power and beauty of Redemptive Suffering, which is the subject of his latest book, "When You Suffer: Biblical Keys For Hope and Understanding." Amongst other things, Jeff and I answer questions like: What is redemptive suffering? Ā  How does itĀ work? Ā  Why can it transform your life? This is a great episode that can literally transform your life. God bless! Matthew "All who have been lost were lost because they did not pray." St. Alphonsus Liguori. Don't be lost! Grab your FREE copy of my quick guide to deeperĀ prayerĀ 8 Ways To Jumpstart Your Prayer Life!Ā  It's an easy step-by-step summary of the spiritual giants of the Church designed to help you rocket to God! Please take a momentĀ toĀ leave the show a rating! Doing so helps promote the podcast andĀ gets Catholic material in front of people who may never otherwise be exposed to the faith. Thank you!!

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0:00.0

This is the art of Catholic.

0:07.0

And if children, then heirs, heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, provided we

0:20.1

suffer with him, in order that we may also be glorified with him.

0:25.6

Those words from St. Paul sound a bit frightening at first blush, but contain a beautiful promise

0:30.0

we're going to discuss today.

0:32.0

Hello everyone, Broadcasting from Studio No. 2 at the St. Paul Center for Biblical Theology.

0:36.9

I'm Matthew Leonard, and this is the Art of Catholic Podcast.

0:41.2

Now today's guest is one of my favorite guys guys and I'm sure that many of you have heard him

0:45.7

speak. You've read his books, you've watched his videos. His name is Jeff Kavis and I'm just

0:51.0

gonna tell you right now he's the real deal. I've come to know him as a man who strides for holiness

0:56.0

and he does his best to help others get to our Lord and he's close to God. And today on the

1:01.2

Art of Catholic we're going to get into a topic that is highly relevant for every single person on the planet.

1:09.0

Suffering.

1:10.0

But this show is going to be anything but a downer.

1:12.8

In fact, it's all about hope.

1:14.8

It's about how to find meaning and use our suffering for our own growth and holiness

1:19.6

and for the benefit of others in Jesus Christ.

1:21.8

Now, I don't remember exactly where he said it, but Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI once said,

1:27.3

I'm paraphrasing here.

1:28.8

He said that eventually every question

1:31.4

about human existence comes back to the idea of suffering.

1:36.0

And it's so true, we all experience it.

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