015: Exploring The Mystery of Redemptive Suffering with Jeff Cavins
The Art of Catholic with Matthew Leonard
Matthew Leonard
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šļø 14 October 2015
ā±ļø 62 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | This is the art of Catholic. |
| 0:07.0 | And if children, then heirs, heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, provided we |
| 0:20.1 | suffer with him, in order that we may also be glorified with him. |
| 0:25.6 | Those words from St. Paul sound a bit frightening at first blush, but contain a beautiful promise |
| 0:30.0 | we're going to discuss today. |
| 0:32.0 | Hello everyone, Broadcasting from Studio No. 2 at the St. Paul Center for Biblical Theology. |
| 0:36.9 | I'm Matthew Leonard, and this is the Art of Catholic Podcast. |
| 0:41.2 | Now today's guest is one of my favorite guys guys and I'm sure that many of you have heard him |
| 0:45.7 | speak. You've read his books, you've watched his videos. His name is Jeff Kavis and I'm just |
| 0:51.0 | gonna tell you right now he's the real deal. I've come to know him as a man who strides for holiness |
| 0:56.0 | and he does his best to help others get to our Lord and he's close to God. And today on the |
| 1:01.2 | Art of Catholic we're going to get into a topic that is highly relevant for every single person on the planet. |
| 1:09.0 | Suffering. |
| 1:10.0 | But this show is going to be anything but a downer. |
| 1:12.8 | In fact, it's all about hope. |
| 1:14.8 | It's about how to find meaning and use our suffering for our own growth and holiness |
| 1:19.6 | and for the benefit of others in Jesus Christ. |
| 1:21.8 | Now, I don't remember exactly where he said it, but Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI once said, |
| 1:27.3 | I'm paraphrasing here. |
| 1:28.8 | He said that eventually every question |
| 1:31.4 | about human existence comes back to the idea of suffering. |
| 1:36.0 | And it's so true, we all experience it. |
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