eat real food, not too much mostly plants, done.

So, I mean, you could talk about macro nutrients,

the car back loading, you could talk about paleo,

all that, everything that you talk about

once you get away from those three terms I just said

carries with it some sort of agenda in my mind.

Someone's trying to sell you a program,

someone's trying to sell you a book,

someone's trying to sell you their methodology,

to me, it's the things that very few nutritionists

in the world would argue with is to eat real food,

not too much of it and most of it should be plant-based.

What confidence is, it has nothing to do with winning

or the leaderboard, what confidence is,

is knowing that you giving your best efforts is enough.

Is it not?

All right, Ben, today we're going to talk about

something that a lot of people like to fight about

on the internet, which is nutrition.

So, before we sort of dive into

wherever the conversation takes us,

I'm really interested to know how you think about nutrition

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