On today's podcast, we're welcoming a professor from Butler University who teaches English teachers.

We do get pretty technical here, but there's also some interesting conversation about what makes a good teacher.

And I know that a lot of people out there listening to Rachel's English

are ESL teachers. So there's going to be some interesting stuff here. We also discuss strategies

for teaching someone how to help new students from foreign countries understand American culture.

For a free transcript of the episode, just visit rachelsenglish.com slash

podcast and search for this episode. Here we go. We're here with Dr. Brooke Candle Sisko,

who is a teacher of ESL teachers. And we've got some questions today to pick her brain about the field of teaching English

as a second language. Brooke, what is your degree in? My degree is a doctor of philosophy and

educational psychology with an emphasis in bilingual and ESL education.

Educational psychology.

Yes.

What does that even mean?

Educational psychology is really a field that studies patterns in human behavior and seeks to better understand human behavior.

However, the specific program I was in

was really very much more focused on language, language development. And it did take a somewhat

behavioralist approach to language development, though. And what is your current job title?

I'm an associate professor of English as a second language at Butler University in

Indianapolis, Indiana. So what is your job entail at this point? So primarily I teach courses

to undergraduate students, so students who are in college who want to become teachers. Some of them want to be

math teachers or science teachers and others want to only focus on English as a second language

when they graduate. I also work with graduate students who are already classroom teachers and

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