Welcome to the Newsome Health Menopause podcast.

I'm Dr Louise Newsome, a GP and menopause specialist, and I run the Newsome Health

Menopause and Wellbeing Centre here in Stratford-upon-Avon.

So, Menopause and Well-Being Centre here in Stratford-upon-Avon. So today we're doing a slightly different podcast because we're doing it over Skype rather

than face-to-face and I'm doing it with lovely Liz Earle who has kindly agreed to talk to me

late on a Sunday evening because we want to talk about

the last couple of days that's gone mad in the media over this new HRT and menopause research,

I suppose, that's come out and hit hit the headlines hard. So, hi Liz. Hello, really nice to talk to you. This is the first one I've done

over Skype. Yes, it's a bit weird not being able to see you IRL in real life, as my children say.

But let's see how it's awesome. You know, this is topical and we've just got to jump on it and have this

chat, haven't we? Absolutely. So the first I heard about this was on Wednesday night, but it was all embargoed.

I heard more on Thursday and read this article that came out in The Lancet, which is a really

important, really good journal.

And I was really quite surprised and disappointed, actually actually to see that it's been published.

When did you hear about it?

I woke up basically on the Friday morning to headlines.

Like people, just check my news apps.

And my heart sank.

And I thought, oh my goodness, what is this?

Obviously jumped on everybody's social media that I respect,

people like you and Professor Baum and lots of other eating menopause experts who are at the

cutting edge of all of this, very quickly realized that it wasn't new research. It's just a study

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