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Hey, what's up? David Scales here for the Surf Splendor Network.

Welcome back to the show.

I wanted to just let you know about the format of today's show.

I'm going to lead off with a three-minute interview with the CEO of the Surf Rider Foundation,

Chad Nelson, who just has some really important information to share with us about a cause that we can all get involved in. Then I'm going to launch into the main portion of the show, which is the heated debate,

the face-off, the long-anticipated face-off between Ashton Gaggins, editor at Stab Magazine

versus Chas Smith of Beach Grit.

So look forward to that.

And then at the very, very end, after the outro of the show, I'm going to tack on an additional little

epilogue, which I recorded when Chaz and Ashton entered the room together.

There's just a little exchange there that I thought was worth listening to, but doesn't

fit into the debate format.

So stick around at the end of the show for that.

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