Matt, you told me that you listen to Chaz and I during your nightly bath, which I was

simultaneously flattered by and creeped out by.

I just did it the once.

Oh, okay.

It's not a regular thing.

You know what?

I'm not ashamed of that.

I'm usually just in there listening to whatever music I can, I feel like I want

to sort of get me through that last bit of my day.

But I thought, gosh, if I'm going to go on the show, I better listen to the pros and figure

out how they do it.

I really only have one talent in life.

Okay, let's hear it.

I can copy, I can mimic people.

So if it's a, if it's Final Cut Pro, or if it's writing, or if it's even surfing,

I'm always good at figuring out who's a lot better

at it than I am and how close can I get to what they do. So I thought, well, I'll listen to you and

Charlie and maybe that'll put me at least in the game. So that's what that was all about it wasn't anything too

strange super kind of you and i appreciate you i'm using us as the examples of who would be good at

this because that's probably a stretch um so welcome though to the podcast world i began inviting you

on this show three years ago man what. What the heck? Why have you

been dodging me all this time? That's the voice of Matt Warshaw of the Encyclopedia of Surfing.

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