Hey y'all just a quick heads up the episode you're about to listen to is 8 to 10 years old

now these episodes were intended to be evergreen and I still believe there's a lot of good

information in these early episodes, but I do want to let you know that some of my ideas have evolved

over time. Times have changed since we made these episodes and ultimately I'd like to think I've grown

a lot as an artist and a human and that these don't necessarily represent my best work or the best of the podcast.

If you're new around here, I suggest starting with the most recent episode or

at least go back to around 300 and move forward from there.

Enjoy the episode. You're going to be here. It's the Creative Pep Talk Podcast and this is me Andy J Miller, illustrator, designer. You know, I'm gonna be kind of switching gears a little bit if you're not an illustrator or designer or

visual artist you can keep listening and a lot of this will apply to all kinds of

different creative professionals but I'm gonna gear it a little bit more directly to that crowd just because that's what I know, that's what I do, and I don't think there are enough resources out there geared directly towards that field and so yeah so this is

going to become a little bit more focused on illustration and design and so hope that on something that came up that I was asking on Twitter

if there were any topics that came up or any topics that you guys wanted me to tackle and one of the ones that

came up from a buddy of mine, Daniel Fisher, and also then reiterated by, I think it's Chris Carfilite, sorry if I'm saying that wrong, Chris. They were both asking about this idea

of professional life or

and or juggling these things.

And I think, you know, I think that, I think in the question kind of lies the answer.

You know, Daniel said it like personal life versus professional life.

And here's my kind of the idea behind this this episode. It's that the

biggest thing that I think needs to happen is, and I'm not sure exactly if this is what you think, Daniel, but this is kind of what I'm, what I try to view things as, which is changing that attitude altogether and not

seeing my personal life and my professional life as things that are competing for each other.

Now Chris was saying how do you balance a day job and being an active freelancer?

And so those, it's a little bit different but it's it's similar

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