Our national conversation about conversations about race is sponsored by audible.com.

Audible.com has more than 180,000 audiobooks and spoken word audio projects.

Get a free audiobook of your choice at www.org.com slash race.

And whisper it when you type it in.

The following podcast contains explicit language.

Hello and welcome to our national conversation about conversations about race, the biweekly multiracial

podcast where we discuss the ways we can't talk, don't talk, would rather not talk, but intermittently,

fitfully, embarrassingly do talk about culture, identity, politics, power, and the privilege

of our pre-post, yet still very racial America.

The shorter version of all that is about race.

And yes, I'm Barrettin Day Thurston back and joining me from the Panoply Studios in New York.

I'm my co-host, Raquel Cepeda.

Hello, Raquel.

Hello.

And Tanner Colby's out this week, y'all spending time with his family in the Berkshire Mountains.

So we finally have our all-brown episode.

What, what, what, what?

I am so pleased to welcome my sister from another mister.

We have a guest co-host, reporter, cultural and political analyst, and columnist with the intercept.com for Rajadea.

Thank you. What up? And she's my sister sister too, by the way. There you go. She's everybody's sister. They just high-five.

You couldn't see it, but you might have heard it slightly. A tap in the background. That was two

sisters high-fiving. So on this week's show, we're dealing with just two topics this time, y'all, because they're so meaty. The first, deaths in police

...