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What's going on, everybody? Hi, it's the Jeff Gerstman Show here online for August

9th, and I am joined by a special guest. Here he is. Ben Pack is here. I am trying to

turn the music down, but it is not turning down. Yeah, we discussed that you would not

hear the music, but you would act like you were hearing the music. And it is almost

over. It is over. No, Ben, the music is stopped. Okay. All right. Great. Hi. I am Jeff

Gerstman. Welcome to the show. Ben Pack is here. Welcome to the show. Ben Pack. And now

your voice is going out to the stream. So on top of that, I fixed that. So I spent weeks

thinking about the different ways. I would like, okay, how would the routing work for getting

a guest on and routing the audio? I want to make sure I have a button so I can turn them off.

So if they want to say bad things about people on the internet, that I don't have to

let it, it doesn't have to broadcast out. And so I have a way to. Do you want to test that?

I can say some bad things about people on the internet. Yeah, sure. Okay. You're definitely

not streaming out right now. So you can go ahead and safely say bad things about people on the

internet. The guy from Epic Meal Time is abrasive. Oh, shit. I accidentally, oh man, that

accidentally went out. What? Sorry. You're ruined. No, you know me and Harley are like,

we're not friends, but we have new tools. Oh, no. Well, I've gone and ruined it.

He's never going to follow my private Twitter account now. No, I know. Yeah. So you've gone,

you've pretty much gone off the grid and you've taken an honest job on a, on a different grid,

I guess, on the grid. Exactly. You're building the grid instead of appearing in front of,

instead of standing in front of the grid and doing the little dance that says, hey,

it's all going to burn someday. Instead, you're like building the stuff. I building the thing that's

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