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But yeah, I didn't make that nexus because I didn't have that kind of relationship with both

to be able to be able to compare them.

But yeah, man, I can, based on your description, I can see a lot, even more of Bo Schenbeckler and Jim Harbaugh than I knew was there before. That's exactly right. I know where our time is limited, but there's a great Andy Canavino story where Bo choose them up, up one side and down the other. You know, we have one problem with Steve Cannavino, and it's you. Until you change your attitude, we're all going to go nowhere. It's all going to be your fault. And there's no, what does Bo think? That was not a question that came up very often. So, so Cannavino leaves, shaking like a leaf. Jerry Hanlon, rest in peace, Jerry, comes in and says, wow, Bo, what is going to do going to do and boe says you know gerry i can't answer

that question but i can't tell you one thing i feel a hell of a lot better and and harbaud it he'd rip you

up one's at and down the other but then he's done with it whatever you do that's up to you and he

that's what it is.

So he's ripping in the same way. Bakes, it's not normal human behavior the way he was able to just switch on a dime like that. It's just not. Both of them. Both of them. You're right. But you know what? I think it's a very effective leadership trait because you, A, two things. A, you've got to tell the truth, whoever needs to hear it, whether they like it or not.

And that can be you or me sometimes.

We both have gotten that. trait because you, A, two things. A, you've got to tell the truth, whoever needs to hear it, whether they like it or not.

And that can be you or me sometimes. We've both gotten that from, I got it from Bo, I got it from Jim. I can speak to it. So, and you've gotten it from every coach you've covered. But then it's also effective. You know what? These guys are busy guys. You got 120 guys on the team. you got staffs of, you know, 10 and whatnot.

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