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like coffee it's fantastic Michael Vic 13 NFL seasons for pro balls he knows Doug Peterson because Doug Peterson I believe was in Kansas City when with the Andy Reed stuff no it was let's

ask him let's get Michael Vic on joining us live so Michael Doug Peterson fired where did you work with Doug Peterson in Philadelphia from 2009 to 2012 so I was

looking for four years. Wow. Yeah we spent a lot of time together I know Doug personally and I kind of know how you think a little bit. Okay so let me

I didn't like pulling Jalen Hertz I thought it was a big mistake I think when you have a young quarterback you're just trying to give him these

moments where they can build confidence it was a it was a moment for Jalen Hertz to win a football game I thought it was a great

moment for Jalen and I think Doug butchered it that's my opinion did you do you think that led potentially to his firing.

Oh no doubt what I question I think everything in the end down the stretch was sort of mismanaged by Doug and it started you know when he first put Jalen Hertz on the field you know was it a need to put Jalen out there I don't know was it out of desperation who knows but you know I just felt like a lot of things

was mismanaged and you know that was a game of significance for the Philadelphia Eagles one to get a look at Jalen Hertz and two to kind of close the season out in style you know so to speak but you know he pulled Jalen and we was all excited about Jalen and we talked them up and we wanted to see him finish and play against a good football team you know a decent football team in the wash the football team and and for him to do that you know took the air out of the building so you know it's shocking if they fired Doug you just you know four years

removed from the Super Bowl but hit accomplish some great things in Philadelphia by the way I'm not going to tell you the comments that Mike and I talk before he went on the air he actually golf two days ago with Jeffrey

Lurie the Eagles owner he didn't mention he didn't mention anything about fire and a coach no but he certainly picked my brain on some things and it's fair to say he's a great listener but you know we didn't we didn't talk any he didn't talk about you know Doug at all it was more about you know

just coaching principles and things to look for and I thought it was it was very intriguing and myself and Larry Fitzgerald we are we had great conversation

they had a good round of golf but I didn't know that it was going to lead to this and it's fair to say I had nothing to do with this Doug if you want to

appreciate that well you and I were both happy because I and I've said this before is I think sometimes we bully in the media we can all be kind of bad

and I think I was tired of hearing about how Lamar Jackson couldn't win if he was behind and I'm like timeout right he's one 81% of his games

the Hall of Fame coaches win 57% and we give him a gold jacket I thought it was a real moment for Lamar and I got to tell you down the stretch of that game with the lead

I thought he played really smart he knew to sit down he stayed in bounds there was ball security I felt like I saw growth with Lamar your thoughts

yeah absolutely and for one second did I think that

Lamar was going to lose that game even after you threw the pick early and in the first quarter and you know it was a ball that I think got away from but for him to

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