And we are back, folks, here on The Michigan Insider on the Big 1050 WTKA, online, the big 1050.com, Sam Webb.

I rewind and travel on the other side and joining us again here in part two of the midweek peak is Steve Clark.

So playoff expansion has been the conversation for us this week.

Big Ten meetings going on. Steve Clark.

And it had been coaches, some ADs,

from the Big Ten, trumpeting the 2014 player.

No, Tony Petiti was behind it being basically put on a string by Fox.

We know that was the case, but he hadn't really spoken publicly in a stump sort of way until yesterday, where they said he spoke to a few media members for over an hour.

And the majority of that time was spent talking about playoff expansion to 24.

And he made it very clear.

I mean, this is Tony Petiti wearing his big boy boots.

Steve, hey, if the SEC doesn't get on board, guess what?

We are doing a damn thing.

We're staying at 12.

That's what we're going to do.

So he put a line in the sand on Greg Sanky,

which a year ago I thought would be like,

yeah, right, dude, that's going to accomplish something.

I actually think the guy might get his way this time.

I'm curious who you think will win this standoff.

So Sam, let's go back about a year ago at this time where Tony Bettiti, you know, came up with this 2014 playoff plan.

Or he, what, let's take Iris point.

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