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Of course, Joe Simon from the law offices of Joseph A. Simon at the Michigan Defenders.com.

That's the Michigan Defenders.com.

He is the number one on our list of, hey, he's the best criminal defense.

He's also number one on our list of our sponsors that we want you to know, we want you to hear from, and then we never want you to use or need. If you need them, you want you to use them, but we never want you to need them. But I would say, Joe, you probably have the same conversation with your friends. You're like, I'm here if you need me, but I hope you never need me. Yeah, unfortunately, I went professionally encountered people usually at their lowest points.

That is, that is true. That's not, that's not always fun, but, uh, it does take a bedside

manner, like to use a medical term, it probably takes a certain bedside manner to encounter

families in certain situations and a lot of situations that you have to deal with because they

are at their lowest. And sometimes it's not maybe the client that you're so worried about,

but maybe their spouse or their parent or their kids or whoever,

you have to handle a lot of kids.

That's a very big part of the job.

And maybe the most taxing part of the job.

I literally say this probably in every consultation and I remind myself

of it all the time. I do this every day of the week and I realize that when I'm meeting someone,

this is a totally foreign world to them. So I keep trying to remind myself of that so that I can try to put myself in their mindset

because, yeah, this can be a really intimidating process. Well, if you're talking to someone that's

sitting in a prison jail atmosphere for the first time in their life. Yeah. And even if they,

you know, if we've talked, there are innocent people that need to be defended to be proven

innocent.

And even if they're in that situation, or if they're guilty and they would need their defense, whatever, their scenario is if they've never been there before, we all know being in a first place for anything. I don't like driving in a new city for the first time. I get like, like, there was driving around the city. Like, what am I doing here? You know, how are the lights? Are people going to be going driving?

Are the cabs crazy?

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