There are extremes of which they are one because it seems like they're perpetually doing that.

And there's inherent risk in that.

Inherent risk that has shaped, has formed in some ways scarred.

I think it's accurate to say scarred Brad Holmes because he is he is the polar opposite.

He is like 180 diametrically opposed to doing it the Rams way.

We're back here on the Michigan insider on a Big 1050 WTK online at the big 1050.com.

But there's something to be said for listen.

The objective is to win it all.

Not just to win, not just to win, not just to get there and get to the playoffs.

No, the objective, the goal is to win it all.

So you think.

So I'm going to take you back to my youth because I think I've talked about this before.

Growing up with the Washington Bullets, I was not really a fan, but they were obviously the local team.

I didn't love it.

But they would, so their advertisements used to be come see Dr. Jay, come see Larry Bird, come see Michael Jordan.

They didn't even say come see your team.

Their model was to be just good

enough to make the playoffs. Like this was the model because if you made the playoffs, you got a certain

amount of money and whatever and just be good enough. Keep everybody happy. And your star player is

like Jeff Malone or an aging Bernard King or an aging Moses and Moses Malone. Correct.

But they were just good enough to be the eight seat a lot.

And just there, so you, okay, we're the playoffs.

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