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Hello and welcome to our national conversation about conversations about race, the bi-weekly multiracial podcast where we discuss the ways we can't talk, don't talk, would rather not talk, but intermittently, fitfully, embarrassingly do talk about culture, identity, politics, power,

and privilege in our pre-post, yet still very racial America.

You could say all of that, or you could just call this show, about race.

From the Panoply Studios in New York, I'm Tanner Colby, author of Some of My Best Friends

Are Black, The Strange Story of Integration in America.

Joining me here is my co-host Raquel Sapeda, author of Bird of Paradise, How I Became Latina.

Hello, Raquel.

What up, what up?

And joining us from his personal studio in Los Angeles is Baratunde Thurston author of How to Be Black.

Hello, Baratunde.

Studio Tunday representing.

There you go.

Okay, today, the recent events in Baltimore, the eruption of grief and anger and outrage in the wake of Freddie Gray's death while in police custody.

We'll be spending today's whole show on the subject, looking at it from three different angles.

First, what we talk about when we talk about Baltimore?

Are we talking about a riot or an uprising? Are we talking about a riot or an uprising?

Are we talking about protesters and revolutionaries or hoodlums and thugs? Right and left, black and white,

from mainstream media to social media, how should we frame and discuss what just happened?

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