On this episode, we cover the Joe Rogan Experience number 2303 with guests, Dave Smith and Douglas Murray.

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It's a show for those who are curious about Joe Rogan, his guests and their claims,

as well as anyone who wants to understand Joe's ever-growing media influence.

My name is Cecil Cicerole. I'm joined by Michael Marshall, and today we're going to be covering

Joe's April 11th interview and debate between Dave Smith and Douglas Murray.

And I misspelled Murray twice in the notes so far.

How did Joe introduce each of these fellas in the show notes?

Yeah, so Dave Smith is a stand-up comedian, a libertarian political commentator and podcaster.

He's the host of the Part of the Problem podcast, as well as a co-host of the Legion of Skanks podcast. Wow.

So lofty, lofty guests here. We also have Douglas Murray, who is a political commentator,

cultural critic and author of numerous books, the most recent of which is democracies and death cults,

Israel and the future of civilization. Sounds dire. Is there anything else we should know about?

Yeah, I think so. So Dave Smith is pretty much a regular in the Rogan's sphere. He's often appearing

here on Rogan's podcast, or he appears on

Lex Friedman's show, or Tim Poole, or in the broader podcast circuit in those kind of spaces.

This is actually his second appearance on Rogan this month. He appeared earlier this month

when he was talking about Ukraine and Gaza, which probably is what

prompted this quick follow-up conversation with Douglas Murray. In 2021, Dave Smith told

Reason Magazine that vaccine mandates are an infringement on personal liberty and that he would

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