In order to mitigate this geopolitical risk, this technological surprise risk, we have to have a serious national plan for disclosure, for being increasingly transparent and having a more open, serious conversation about UAPs.

Most people haven't been paying close attention, so it sounds kind of kooky.

But if you've been paying close attention, you read the language and you listen to the statements made by Saramo's senior national security officials and congressional

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I mean, this is like no joke.

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How you doing?

I've done pretty well.

So, we're going to get

to UAPs again today, but

is either a massive sciop or it's real.

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