Summary
What's next for the pro-independence movement after the Supreme Court ruling? Judges at the Supreme Court have ruled that the Scottish government cannot hold an independence referendum without the UK government's consent. The team discusses the implications of the ruling for the Scottish and Westminster Governments, what 'war-gaming' is happening, and how using the next general election as a 'de facto' referendum may or may not work. Is this a decisive moment for Scotland's constitutional question, and what does chess have to do with it?
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| 0:00.0 | BBC Sounds |
| 0:02.4 | You're listening to BBC Scotland |
| 0:09.6 | Hi, you're listening to Podlitical, BBC Scotland's podcast that brings you an inside look |
| 0:17.0 | at the big stories coming out of Hollywood and Westminster. |
| 0:20.0 | It is 16 minutes past two on Thursday the 24th in November. |
| 0:24.2 | I'm Phil Sim, a journalist based in Hollywood, and today I'm joined by... |
| 0:27.8 | I'm Roger Epson, a journalist based in Westminster. |
| 0:31.0 | And I'm Glenn Campbell, a journalist based opposite Phil Sim in the Hollywood Studio. |
| 0:35.5 | Always a good place to be. |
| 0:37.8 | So, I mean, I am in the Hollywood studio because I've dashed back from the Supreme Court to host today's episode. |
| 0:43.9 | So I'm going to self-indulgently insist that we talk about my thing today. |
| 0:47.9 | I don't care what you guys want to talk about. |
| 0:49.7 | This is all about me. |
| 0:50.9 | I think you'll find it was Lord Reid's thing. |
| 0:52.8 | Well, yes, fair. |
| 0:54.0 | Maybe it was the Reid's thing. Well, yes, fair. Maybe it was the |
| 0:54.5 | nation's thing. This is, this is one for all of us. But you were inside the Supreme Court. |
| 0:59.1 | What was it like? Were you excited? I felt like the best ticket in town. Yeah, was there |
| 1:03.7 | like a big buzz, like a World Cup crowd. Yeah, I mean, it was, it's always cool to be in the room, isn't it? Why else do we do this job, if not to be in the room as history has made? |
| 1:13.4 | And yeah, there was a sort of, I don't know if it had the buzz of maybe some of the rallies and stuff that were going on elsewhere, |
| 1:19.4 | because it was very sort of straight legal stuff. |
| 1:22.0 | You know, it was the judge's trooping and read out this 10 minute summary and sort of rather dense legalese. |
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