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do not necessarily reflect the views of the whatever channel. Without further ado, I'm going to

introduce our two guests. I'm joined today by Dr. David Patrick Harry. He has a PhD in religious

studies from the Graduate Theological Union in Berkeley, California.

He's a traditionalist and Eastern Orthodox Christian.

He is also an online educator.

Also joining us today is Zena.

She is a senior at USC pursuing a sociology degree.

She is a leftist. She does social and philosophical commentary

and is a content creator and was recently featured on a Jubilee episode debating Jordan Peterson.

She's the Jordan Peterson Slayer. So there you have it, folks. The topic today is free will and

determinism. You'll each have up to a 10-minute opening statement, and then the rest of the

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