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This Week in Startups

Zillow CEO Rich Barton on branding, building in provocative industries, and more! | E1791

This Week in Startups

Jason Calacanis

Technology

4.21.4K Ratings

🗓️ 11 August 2023

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Today’s show:

Rich Barton joins Jason to give a masterclass on his thought process behind creating evocative top-tier brands like Zillow, Expedia, and Glassdoor. (22:02) Rich also discusses the lessons he learned from Bill Gates during his time at Microsoft (49:22), how tech management has evolved (57:04), and more!

Rich's blog on branding: https://www.hopperanddropper.com/syllables-scrabble-letters-and-picking-brand-names

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Time stamps:

(0:00) Zillow CEO Rich Barton joins Jason

(1:58) The creation of Zillow’s Zestimate

(7:03) “Tension and Importance” and empowering people in the workplace

(13:24) Crowdbotics - Get a free scoping session for your next big app idea at crowdbotics.com/twist

(14:53) Branding and creating iconic company names

(16:53) Navigating major layoffs

(22:02) Back to building top-tier brands, “What got us here, won’t get us there”

(27:54) OpenPhone - Get 20% off your first six months at https://openphone.com/twist

(29:25) Steering the complex dynamics of startup-attorney interactions

(33:22) Defying convention to create stellar products and the effects digital currency

(37:54) Fitbod - Get 25% off at https://fitbod.me/twist

(39:23) Innovating in the real estate industry

(49:22) Lessons Rich learned from Bill Gates during his time at Microsoft

(57:04) How tech management has evolved

(1:01:27) How Covid-19 and remote work changed the landscape

(1:07:02) The concept of “iBuying”

(1:10:31) Continuous high-interest rates, “zoom towns”, and the “great reshuffling”

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12 years ago when I started this show it was you know a thousand people listening now to quarter

0:04.1

million and all ends a million you know it's it's a lot of listeners and I was getting my blood

0:09.9

drawn because I'm on this health kick and the phlebotomist came to the house and he's like halfway

0:16.4

through taking 20 bites and he's like I just want to say and I was like fan of the pie and he's

0:21.6

like yeah so you want to take a selfie he said I really do but I get fired whatever it's it

0:27.1

let's do it don't tell your boss then I go to dinner at the same night and I'm like I got to eat

0:31.6

a chicken parme I saw somebody had tweeted a chicken parme so I go I got a chicken parme

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find the best one on yelp the waiter's like I hate to do this and I'm like fan of the pod

0:40.4

big time I go to Berkeley whatever and I think okay you want to take a selfie yeah I said let's do

0:45.6

it in the parking lot so you don't get fired so we went to the back in the parking lot I take a

0:49.2

picture with him it's very weird it is very weird well congratulations you should feel good you've

0:55.1

been working out at a long time so well done yeah you know I think it's like uh there's also

1:00.1

something about like um doing things and I think it's a really good part of our conversation hey

1:05.6

everybody welcome to this we can start up which partners here we were off to the races this

1:09.4

weekend startups is brought to you by crowd botics great ideas can change the world and crowd

1:15.9

botics is the fastest way to turn those ideas into code get a free scoping session for your next big

1:22.1

app idea at crowdbotics.com slash whist open phone brings your team's business calls

1:28.5

texts and contacts into one delightful app that works anywhere get 20% off your first six months

1:35.2

at openphone.com slash whist and fit pod tired of doing the same workouts at the gym fit

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pod will build you personalized workouts that help you progress with every set get 25% off your

1:49.6

subscription or try out the app for free when you sign up now at bitbod.me slash whist.

1:57.5

So Rich Barden is the uh or was the founder of Expedia class door and now the CEO of Zillow

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