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Zero Carbon Future 4: Adaptation and the Future of Climate Modeling

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The Wall Street Journal

Technology

4.41.4K Ratings

🗓️ 12 November 2021

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

While world leaders and businesses are making pledges to mitigate climate change by reducing their greenhouse gas emissions, many parts of the world are already struggling to adapt to a warming planet. The Far North - places like Siberia and Alaska, parts of which are warming three times faster than the global average - are ground zero. In this episode, we look at how they are dealing with thawing permafrost; the struggle to pay for adaptation in other U.S. cities; and why scientists say future climate models need to become more granular, to help communities prepare. Ann Simmons weighs in from Russia and Georgi Kantchev joins from Germany. Emily Schwing reports from Alaska. With science writer Robert Lee Hotz. Janet Babin hosts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:30.2

The city's home to about 300,000 people and much of the architecture is Soviet-era style

0:39.1

black buildings and they're built on permafrost. That's ground that's been frozen continuously

0:45.6

for at least two years. These frozen layers can be as shallow as only a few feet,

0:51.6

but in some parts of the world they can stretch as deep as a mile underground.

0:56.5

Yakutsk is the largest city that has something known as continuous permafrost,

1:01.9

meaning that the soil there never thaws, or at least it didn't before.

1:08.0

But now the residents of Yakutsk are seeing ground that's been permanently frozen for thousands

1:14.1

of years start to shift. The houses are buckling and cracking.

1:19.7

My colleague Anne Simmons is chief of the Wall Street Journal's Moscow Bureau.

1:23.9

She recently returned from a reporting trip to Yakutsk.

1:28.0

How's this used to be built on, where they're all built on piles and they stand on stills.

1:34.3

Many of them are old Soviet-era buildings and they used to be sunk like 26 feet into the frozen

1:42.0

ground, but because the permafrost has been melting, local engineers there tell us that now they

1:48.3

have to dig almost 40 feet down in order to ensure that these piles are anchored in the earth.

1:58.2

There are thousands of apartment buildings here.

2:00.8

Simmons says, according to a local ecologist, fewer than three dozen of this city's 2,000

2:07.2

concrete apartment buildings were deemed safe when tested roughly 10 years ago.

2:13.2

And the problem stretches beyond the city's walls.

2:16.3

The entire region of Yakutia, also known as the Sapa Republic, the thought is making it harder

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