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The MeidasTouch Podcast

Zelenskyy Checkmates Trump in Rome with Power Move

The MeidasTouch Podcast

MeidasTouch Network

News, Politics

4.956.4K Ratings

🗓️ 27 April 2025

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Ukrainian President Zelenskyy flanked by his allies from Europe taking command of negotiations with Trump at Pope Francis’ funeral in Rome and delivering a powerful counter-offer for an unconditional ceasefire with Russia. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Ukraine's President Zelensky is commanding respect and taking the initiative in negotiations

0:07.2

with the United States, really taking the upper hand and Donald Trump looking like the weak

0:12.8

one now in the negotiation. So during the funeral of Pope Francis in Rome, Zelensky was

0:20.0

surrounded by his friends, his strong allies.

0:23.7

You had French President Emmanuel Macron, you had the United Kingdom Prime Minister,

0:32.0

Kierre Starmer, you had the European Union Commission President, Vondralayan, and others surrounding Zelensky and standing strong with Zelensky.

0:44.2

I mean, literally right here, you have Macron and Kierre Starmer with Zelensky as they were speaking to Donald Trump.

0:51.7

I mean, Trump looked addled.

0:53.3

He looked fatigued. He was wearing a blue

0:56.3

suit at the funeral of Pope Francis, the only person not wearing a black suit and a long black

1:03.9

tie, which was the dress code. And one of the way Zelensky's been out maneuvering Donald Trump,

1:12.7

standing with his allies in Europe, the real coalition of the way Zelensky's been out maneuvering Donald Trump, standing with his allies in Europe,

1:18.9

the real coalition of the willing, making it clear that there are bright lines that Ukraine will not cross in any negotiations. Ukraine making it clear that they're the ones who agree to an unconditional

1:25.2

ceasefire, and it's Vladimir Putin who refuses to do an

1:29.5

unconditional ceasefire. Ukraine also making it very clear. They're not going to give up Crimea.

1:35.6

They're not going to give up territories that are Ukrainian territories that were either annexed or

1:41.6

stolen by Russia in an unlawful invasion.

1:46.1

So the United States trying to jam under Trump, trying to jam down Zelensky's throat,

1:52.5

a mineral deal, you must give up Crimea, you can never join NATO.

1:58.3

And Zelensky is saying, no, we want peace.

2:01.8

We're agreeable to an unconditional ceasefire, unlike Putin.

2:06.8

But we and our European allies have our own terms.

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