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Hi, and welcome to the Longview. I'm Christine Ben's Director of Personal Finance and Retirement Planning for Morningstar.

And I'm Jeff Patak, Chief Ratings Officer for Morning Star Research Services.

Our guest on the podcast today is author Zachary Caravell. He's written numerous books about global history, economics, and politics.

His latest book is called Inside Money, Brown Brothers Harriman and the American Way of

Power. Zachary, welcome to the Longview. Thanks for having me, Christine. Well, thanks so much

for being here. Our first question relates to the book. We want to talk about your latest book

Inside Money, which is about Brown Brothers Harriman. That firm has always kept a pretty

low profile. So I'm wondering what put them on your radar and made you think that they would

be a good subject for this book? So it is a very good question, given that it is a firm that for

the entirety of its 200 plus years has studiously and assiduously shunned the spotlight

and has treated every day in which their name does not appear in one form of news or media or another

as a good day, which is very different than, you know, the J.P. Morgans or E.H. Harriman's or Goldman Sachs today,

which in some respects had an ethos or have an ethos a little bit more of wanting to imprint their

name on the annals of history. And those types tend to make for better, more gripping, stirring,

heroic, villainous, famous, infamous narratives. My reasons for writing about Brown Brothers,

I guess number one is, you know, what is that mode of a firm and an entity that survived in part with an ethos of being part of the story and not the story, tell us about a sustainable capitalism?

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