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🗓️ 15 November 2022
⏱️ 80 minutes
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In this episode I was joined by bestselling author and social commentator Michael Shellenberger. We spoke about the social issues in California, the real reasons for the energy crisis in Europe, and the problems with so-called sustainable energy. We also got into the homeless issue, the drug problem and lifestyle solutions. Michael is the author of multiple books including, “Apocalypse Never” and bestseller, “San Fran-sicko”. He ran for Governor of California in 2022 and is also the co-founder of the Breakthrough Institute and the California Peace Coalition. Thanks for tuning in. If you enjoyed this conversation, be sure to subscribe! Follow Michael Shellenberger On: Twitter: https://twitter.com/ShellenbergerMDInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/shellenberger/Substack: https://michaelshellenberger.substack.com Follow Me On: All Platforms: https://linktr.ee/mikhailapetersonFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/mikhailapete... Twitter: https://twitter.com/mikhailafullerInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/mikhailapet... Telegram: https://t.me/mikhailapetersonTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mikhailapeterson Chapters [0:00] Preview & Intro [2:21] Michael’s Background [3:08] Running for Governor of California & Political Stance [3:58] Social Issues In California [6:07]Energy Cost & Crisis In Europe [8:43] North American Treaty Obligation To Europe [10:21] Europe Asking Canada & USA For Natural Gas [11:26] Why Trudeau & Biden Won’t Support Energy Exports to Europe [12:38] The Political Shift In Europe [14:39] The War On Nuclear Power [17:11] Natural Gas & The Climate [18:31] Reliance On China and Russia For Energy [20:06] Solar Panels Come From Chinese Concentration Camps [22:23] The China Sourcing Problem [24:06] Europe Funding Concentration Camps In China [26:59] Economic Virtue Signaling [28:24] Farmers In the Netherlands [30:06] Demonization of Industry [32:50] China’s Control Of Rare Earth Metals [34:08] Inefficiency of So Called Sustainable Energy Production [38:18] Storing Renewable Energy [39:52] Blackouts in California [44:02] The Fertilizer Controversy [46:52] Food Shortages In Europe [49:00] Weak Leaders And The Global Consequences [51:45] Addiction & Homelessness [53:57] Wokism & Victimhood [56:55] The Truth Behind The Homeless Crisis [57:55] Why Europe Doesn't Have A Drug Problem [103:20] Overmedication In North America [1:06:41] Alternatives To Medication [1:09:06] Quitting Drinking & Limiting Carbs & Exercise [1:13:06]Diet, Mental Health & Stoicism [1:15:20] Why Mikhaila Took Responsibility For Her Health [1:17:09] The Leftist Approach To Responsibility Vs. Victimhood [1:18:56] Michael’s New Book
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0:00.0 | So you said there are people in concentration camps in China who are making the solar panels. |
0:04.9 | That's so bad. |
0:05.9 | That's so bad, right? |
0:06.9 | That's so bad. |
0:07.9 | That's so bad. |
0:08.9 | Really, there's three groups that should be bullying, there's the politicians, there's |
0:12.1 | the news media, and then there's the activists, and they all kind of manipulate each other. |
0:16.8 | People are going to die in Europe because energy is too expensive because governments in |
0:21.0 | Europe have been funding concentration camps in China. |
0:24.0 | Yes. |
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