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The Brian Lehrer Show

Your Pope Francis Reflections

The Brian Lehrer Show

WNYC

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4.61.5K Ratings

🗓️ 21 April 2025

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Father James Martin, SJ, reflects on the life and leadership of Pope Francis, who died earlier today at 88, as listeners share their thoughts.

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0:00.0

Brilliant.

0:10.4

On WNYC.

0:12.6

And to end the show today, we will open the phones for Catholics on the legacy of Pope Francis,

0:19.1

according to you. And for any Christians today on the question, what did you hear or what did you preach

0:25.9

at Easter Sunday services about the state of our country or the state of the world?

0:30.9

What would Jesus say?

0:32.3

212-433, WNYC, 212, 433,962. It's a call in for Catholics on the legacy of Pope Francis, according to you.

0:45.0

And for any Christians today on the question, what did you hear or what did you preach at Easter Sunday services about the state of our country or the state of the world,

0:55.5

if you brought it up, what would Jesus say?

0:57.8

212-433, WNYC.

1:01.3

And let's acknowledge many American Christians differ with each other, right, over various things

1:06.9

that are going on right now, whether you belong to a more liberal or progressive church

1:11.5

or a more conservative one, were any Trump administration policies addressed from the

1:16.7

pulpit yesterday from any point of view implicitly or explicitly, and how did that make

1:22.7

you feel? 212-433-9692. Now, ironically, perhaps, Vice President J.D. Vance, as you may have heard,

1:32.1

met with Pope Francis briefly at the Vatican yesterday, one of the last people to see him alive,

1:38.0

despite their explicit differences. This by itself shows the diversity of feeling within

1:43.7

Christianity.

1:45.0

Here's Vance at the National Prayer Breakfast referring to those differences on February 28th.

1:51.0

Pope Francis has criticized some of our policies when it comes to immigration.

1:57.0

Again, my goal here is not to litigate with him or any other clergy member about who's right and who's wrong.

2:03.1

You obviously know my views, and I will speak to them consistently because I think that I have to do it

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