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Young Thug drops UY SCUTI, opens up on mental health, leaked calls, jail time, misconceptions, depression, Drake's advice, loyalty, fatherhood, bond with Mariah the Scientist, and reveals the one thing fans never knew in a powerful bid for a fresh start.

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Sports, Football, Society & Culture

4.93.1K Ratings

🗓️ 26 September 2025

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

“Just being able to see you are still just a person because being a superstar is like a mask, it’s like a representative, when you get in jail and fighting for your life, you realize this shit is all an act, it’s all just a mask.”  Young Thug In one of the most raw and captivating episodes of the year, Young Thug sits down with Ryan, Channing and Fred for an unfiltered conversation in which he opens up in like never before after beating Georgia's biggest case, enduring a trial that shook the hip-hop world and reflecting on the emotional toll of incarceration, how he navigated leaked phone calls, and the impact it all had on his family and mental health. From the moment the guys start talking, Thug is full of emotion, remorse and takes accountability for all that he's been through and put the people closest to him through- he longs for a fresh start but doesn't waiver on who he is, his manhood and doubles down on loyalty. Ryan asks Thug how things got to where they did and why he turned to the streets, despite his overwhelming success, dating back to his childhood and growing up in a house with his father as an example of family. Acknowledging the weight of the world on his shoulders, he reveals how he's been coping, exploring the range of emotions he's experiencing and understanding ways to deal with depression. He speaks candidly about his relationship with his girlfriend Mariah The Scientist and how they survived through the storm, expresses gratitude for fatherhood, and shares what kept him grounded when his future looked uncertain.In a moment of vulnerability, Thug reveals the people who didn't turn their back on him during the dark times, including Drake, Lil Baby and how Kanye and Kim Kardashian are the ones who gave him his biggest break. Thug gives fans a glimpse into his creative mindset, impact on culture, life codes, details behind his new music and how his experiences have transformed his sound and purpose. Going through  emotional—now is Young Thug’s most pivotal moment, as he tunes out the negative noise, ignores the criticism and embraces the chance to start over.  Thank you to Toyota and as you heard, we talked about Toyota's all in partnership with football and game day giveaways, Learn more at https://toyota.com/nfl Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Young thug, the man known to many as the melodic Atlanta rapper

0:33.7

that just beat the biggest racketeering case

0:36.2

in the history of the state of Georgia.

0:38.4

But today, we'll introduce you to Jeffrey Lamar Williams in hopes that you leave knowing

0:44.5

more about him after this conversation.

0:47.2

I mean, he was a project baby.

0:48.7

He grew up idolizing the dope boys, and he turned into the exact thing he looked up to.

0:53.8

The jail cell wasn't a foreign concept

0:55.9

to him, but this was different. There were days behind bars that made him long to be the one person

1:01.6

he was the exact opposite of, the police. I mean, but at least they got to go home. During this time,

1:07.7

Thug found God. He said, when you're up against what he was, praying five times a day just becomes a way of life.

1:14.0

Because this sort of thing changes you. But he called us because he wants to open up, get in touch with his feelings, be vulnerable.

1:20.9

But more importantly, he wants to grow. He took us through the pains of his legal troubles, the people who supported him, those who didn't. And honestly, he seems grateful for it all. I mean, at least now he knows. He's turning into his father. His sons moved in with him, but he is still going through it with his lady, Mariah the scientist. Thankfully, she's still taking care of him, though. I mean, thugs said, I can't bring home the bacon and cook it. The one word that sticks out from our conversation is accountability, because he feels accountable for the hurt he's caused, accountable for what he said on those jail phone calls. And he's accountable for the worry. But he also feels like he's the glue that held so many things together.

2:01.5

And he says since he's been home, he's been mending beefs by the day.

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