All right welcome listeners to episode 45 of Know Your Enemy. I'm your podcast co-host Matt Sippman

And I'm here with my friend Sam at their bell. Hi Matt. Hey Sam. How are you doing? I'm great

I mean I'm I'm I'm under the gun for a deadline. So I'm a little bit frantic. Yes. I'm very busy too

The news out there it ain't great, but nevertheless I'm in decent spirits

Maybe it's because the holidays are around the corner. Mm-hmm

But another reason I'm excited and in a good mood is because this is a really

Fantastic episode we have to share with listeners and it's a unique one I think. Yes

I'm excited about this one too. Some of you will know that this was in the works. Um, this is our episode with Nate

Hawkman who I've described as the boy wonder of the new right

It's a it's another

episode with a

punitive enemy of the podcast. Sam did you say did you say punitive or punitive?

I meant to say punitive, but as listeners to our Freud episode we'll know

Parapraxis is always a possibility, but yes, we're talking to Nate Hawkman who is a

member of the quote unquote new right, a populist, culture warrior on behalf of a conservatism

More organized toward the the common good and much more concerned about defeating

The existential enemy of wokeness and progressivism in American life

That's right and he was uh one of the stars of your recent new republic essay

On this very cast of characters because of young intellectuals on the right these days

So for listeners if you haven't read Sam's new republic essay yet, please do we'll have a link in the show notes

It's really fantastic Sam did great work on it and that also explains the timing of this episode. Nate was again

One of the people Sam talked to and so now that Sam's essays out

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