So Deborah, you've written a great new book called Deborah Talks Money.

I think that's great because I do believe we've got a financial literacy problem, a challenge in the UK.

So what is the summary of the book and who needs to read it?

So first of all, I wrote it for exactly that reason.

We are not taught financial literacy in school, which I find absolutely staggering.

You can do nothing without understanding money.

And you can start your life with a really bad relationship with it or a really good relationship

with it. That's why I wrote the book. But I also understood that actually a lot of the topics

are pretty dry. So it's a very short, sharp burst of information that gives you enough to know

what you need to know. So it isn't a deep, you know, it is, it talks about

mortgages, but not in-depth mortgages. It just says, these are the, this is what it is.

This is a stuff you need to know and it gives you enough information to ask. It's a weird

age span, it sounds like a weird age span. It's sort of 11 to 16 and a lot of grandparents

and parents. But what I want

it to be is a book that stays on a bookshelf, you know, that they think, oh, yeah, I read about

mortgages or I read about interest rates or I read about, you know, well, whatever, you know,

and then then go and take it off the shelf and think, oh, yeah, that's what I need to know.

So that's my plan for the book.

Yeah.

I actually just finished reading it because I obviously knew we were talking today.

And I think that just introducing those concepts to children at an early age will have such

an unbelievable compound effect on their life because I remember when I first started my first business, I knew

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