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Realfoodology

You Don’t Have to Be Wealthy to Eat Healthy - Here’s Why | Jason Karp

Realfoodology

Courtney Swan

Nutrition, Health & Fitness, Alternative Health

4.91.3K Ratings

🗓️ 1 July 2025

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Summary

257: Jason Karp is the CEO of Human Co, and, like me, eats, sleeps and breathes clean living. Jason’s company is behind Hu Chocolate, True Food Kitchen (one of my favorite restaurants), and Grove Collaborative, to name a few. He and I spoke together at the nutrition round table last fall in Washington D.C., and I am so excited for you to hear about the work he’s done to bring clean food to the masses and catch up with the rest of the world by banning synthetic food dyes.  Topics Discussed: →  Why Jason has dedicated his life to clean food    → The Hu Chocolate origin story  → What it took to make True Food Kitchen 100% seed oil free     → How Jason got states to ban synthetic food dyes (yay!)  → Why you don’t have to be rich to eat clean  → The future of the clean food movement Timestamps: → 00:00:00 - Introduction  → 00:04:20 - What Inspired Hu Kitchen  → 00:05:57 - Jason’s Health Journey → 00:07:25 - Why He Started Hu Kitchen  → 00:08:58 - How to Pronounce "Hu Kitchen"  → 00:09:36 - The Story Behind Hu Chocolate  → 00:12:02 - Why Hu Kitchen Closed  → 00:13:58 - From Hu Kitchen to True Food Kitchen  → 00:17:07 - When Jason Discovered True Food Kitchen → 00:19:01 - How True Food Kitchen Got Started  → 00:20:07 - Removing Seed Oils from True Food Kitchen  → 00:22:13 - Upgrading vs. Downgrading Ingredients → 00:23:45 - The Grim Truth: Cleaner Food = Lower Profits  → 00:24:46 - How Grocery Stores Prioritize Unhealthy Low-Cost Foods  → 00:27:59 - You Shouldn’t Need to Be Wealthy to Eat Healthy  → 00:30:46 - Changing the System to Favor Clean Ingredients  → 00:34:49 - If You Can Afford a Smartphone, You Can Afford to Eat Healthy  → 00:39:30 - Jason’s Clean Eating Challenge to His Networks  → 00:41:59 - Why the Data on Seed Oils Feels Inconclusive  → 00:43:28 - How ‘The China Study’ Got Debunked  → 00:46:05 - Using Common Sense to Make Decisions on Diet → 00:49:20 - Synthetic Food Dyes in the United States vs. Abroad → 00:56:05 - Jason Role in the National Fight Against Food Dyes  → 00:59:50 - How Clean Food Became Political  → 01:05:28 - The Clean Food Movement Needs Compassion   → 01:11:15 - Controlling the Controllables without Getting Neurotic  → 01:15:45 - Jason Karp and HumanCo Social  Show Links: → HumanCo brands - Cosmic Bliss & Against The Grain Gourmet → Amara: HUMANCO (20% off discount) - Amara   → True Food Kitchen: Mention to your server “JUSTTRUE10” for $10 off of $50 at True Food Kitchen through June 30th - TFK → Grove Collaborative: "HUMANCO" will give new customers 25% off orders $75+. Grove Sponsored By: → Lineage Provisions | Try my favorite Grass-Fed Beef Tallow from Lineage Provisions. Use the code REALFOODOLOGY for 10% off at lineageprovisions.com. → CURED Nutrition | Right now, CURED Nutrition is offering my listeners an exclusive 20% off Serenity Gummies with a monthly subscription. Just head to www.curednutrition.com/REALFOODOLOGY and use the code REALFOODOLOGY at checkout. → Qualia | Check out qualialife.com/REALFOODOLOGY for up to 50% off and use code REALFOODOLOGY at checkout for an additional 15% off. → MASA Chips | Go to MASAChips.com/Realfoodology and use code Realfoodology for 25% off your first order. → Paleovalley | Save at 15% at paleovalley.com/realfoodology and use code REALFOODOLOGY. → Pacha | Head to pachasoap.co and use code REALFOODOLOGY at checkout for 20% off your entire order. Check Out Jason:  → Jason Karp Instagram → HumanCo Instagram Check Out Courtney: → LEAVE US A VOICE MESSAGE → Check Out My new FREE Grocery Guide! → @realfoodology → www.realfoodology.com → My Immune Supplement by 2x4 → Air Dr Air Purifier → AquaTru Water Filter → EWG Tap Water Database Produced By: Drake Peterson

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0:00.0

On today's episode of the Real Foodology Podcast.

0:03.6

When you downgrade the ingredients, it improves your profit margins.

0:06.6

And that's what's happened over the last 40 years with modern business.

0:12.0

And part of the reason of why we're here today when everyone's like, how did our food system get so fucking toxic?

0:18.4

It's primarily because of capitalism.

0:21.2

Hello, friends. Welcome back to another episode of the Real Foodology podcast. As always,

0:25.4

I'm your host, Courtney Swan, and today's guest is Jason Karp. You may recognize him as one

0:31.3

of the many amazing people that I spoke to the Senate with at the Nutrition Roundtable last

0:36.5

fall in D.C. He's also the CEO and founder

0:40.2

of Human Co, which owns a bunch of different companies like True Food Kitchen and Cosmic Bliss,

0:46.1

which is one of my favorite ice creams, also against the grain, so many amazing companies that we

0:49.9

talk about. He's also the co-founder of Hugh Kitchen, which you may recognize from those amazing

0:55.1

chocolate bars that so many of us love. And if you wait to the very end, we actually have some

0:59.6

amazing codes for you, if you want to save a little bit of money on things like True Food Kitchen

1:03.9

and Grove Collaborative, which is another company that he's involved with. So please stick

1:08.3

around to the very end and you'll get those codes. Thank you so much for listening. If you could take a moment to rate and review the podcast,

1:14.7

I know I ask this every week, but if you have not taken a moment to do it yet, it takes about two

1:19.1

seconds. A five-star rating review can help this show more than you realize. So thank you so much.

1:25.5

And if you're loving this episode, tag me at Real Foodology

1:28.3

and make sure that you tag Jason as well and he shares his tag at the end. It's also in the show

1:32.4

notes. So make sure you share it on social media and we will hopefully get back to it and repost

1:36.7

you guys. So thank you so much for listening. One of my absolute favorite cooking fats is beef tallow, and the one that I trust is from lineage

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