Hello, everybody, and welcome to the Radical Cander podcast.

I'm Kim Scott, author of Radical Cander and co-founder of the company, also Radical Cander.

And I'm Jason Roseoff, CEO and co-founder of Radical Cander.

And I'm Amy Sandler, your host for the podcast, Radical Cander, How to Kick Ass at Work Without Losing Your Humanity. Today we're talking about

a subject that's near and dear to our hearts, which is that radical candor is not brutal

honesty, or what we call in the radical candor framework,

obnoxious aggression.

One of the most painful things that has happened to me since the book came out is we'll be

working together with a team and we're sort of helping people roll out the ideas of radical candor and we'll walk into a room

and somebody will charge in and say, in the spirit of radical candor, and then they will

proceed to act like a garden variety jerk. And this is not the spirit of radical candor. And yet this

happens all the time. In fact, HBO's Silicon Valley, the TV show,

did kind of a spoof on radical candor. And there was this COO in the show who was really acting

like a complete asshole and calling it radical candor.

So when I saw that, it was, I mean, it sold a lot of books, so it wasn't that sad about it,

on the one hand. But on the other hand, I was very sad about it because that's not the spirit

of radical candor. This is something I've given a lot of thought, too, since the book has come out.

How to really think through explaining to people the difference between radical candor and

obnoxious aggression. In fact, it's part of what prompted me to write the second edition of the book,

where I offer people a new framework, Compassionate Cander.

It's really interesting, even when we are in workshops and we explain the idea of calling it

compassionate candor how some light bulbs go off and also an awareness that would a book called

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