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The Tikvah Podcast

Yonatan Jakubowicz on Israel's African Immigrants

The Tikvah Podcast

Tikvah

Judaism, Politics, Religion & Spirituality, News

4.6 • 620 Ratings

🗓️ 7 September 2023

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Summary

Last Saturday, supporters and opponents of Eritrea’s president, Isaias Afwerki, confronted one another in violent clashes. Yet rather than in Asmara, Eritrea’s capital city, this confrontation took place in the streets of south Tel Aviv. In the second half of the 2000s, east African migration to Israel began to accelerate. Since then, in part due to changes in labor policies and law enforcement and in part to a barrier wall erected along the Egypt-Israel border, the number of new east African migrants has fallen precipitously. Nevertheless, although statistics are hard to come by with great precision, there are probably around 40,000 non-Jewish African migrants living in Israel today.

What brings these mainly Ethiopian, Eritrean, and Sudanese immigrants to the cities and towns of Israel? And how does and how should Israel distinguish between those seeking humanitarian asylum and those looking for work opportunities and social benefits?

These questions have become major points of debate in Israel. Some argue that the state must act in the world as a corrective to the Jewish experience of statelessness in history—that since Jews have so often been migrants and refugees and dependent on the help of others, Israel must help others in need when it can. Others argue that Israel—the political answer to the problems of Jewish statelessness—has an overriding moral obligation to welcome and to secure the lives and liberties of Jews—that it has a special obligation to pursue the ingathering of the Jewish diaspora and so to make a distinction between Jewish and non-Jewish immigrants.

To discuss these issues, Yonatan Jakubowicz, formerly an advisor to Israel’s Minister of Interior, and a founder of the Israeli Immigration Policy Center, joins Mosaic editor Jonathan Silver.

Musical selections in this podcast are drawn from the Quintet for Clarinet and Strings, op. 31a, composed by Paul Ben-Haim and performed by the ARC Ensemble.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Last Saturday, supporters and opponents of Eritrea's president, Issa Forky,

0:12.0

confronted one another in what would grow into violent clashes. Rather than in Asmara,

0:17.8

Eritrea's capital city, this confrontation took place, well, of all places,

0:22.4

in the streets of South Tel Aviv. Today's conversation is not about that one particular incident.

0:28.0

Instead, it aims to uncover the historical context for the fact that it took place at all.

0:33.6

In the second half of the 2000s, East African migration to Israel began to accelerate,

0:39.2

thanks to various labor policies and law enforcement, and also due in part to a barrier wall

0:44.7

erected along the Egypt-Israel border, the number of new East African migrants has fallen precipitously.

0:51.1

Nevertheless, although statistics are hard to come by with any great precision,

0:55.5

there are probably around 40,000 African migrants living in Israel today. What are the push and pull

1:01.6

factors that bring, well, mainly Ethiopians, Eritrians, and some Sudanese, to the cities and

1:07.4

towns of Israel? How does one disentangle, claims of humanitarian asylum,

1:12.3

claims which are surely true in some number of these cases, from economic migrants looking

1:16.9

for work opportunities and social benefits? Well, those are questions that all states must answer

1:21.9

for themselves when confronting the question of immigration. Israel's got to answer them too,

1:26.9

but the Jewish state has

1:28.0

specific questions that emerge out of its character and its essential purpose that must be asked

1:33.5

in this case as well. Welcome to the Tikva podcast. I'm your host, Jonathan Silver. Israel is, of course,

1:39.5

not just a nation like other nations. It has a very distinct set of historical causes, ancient and modern,

1:45.8

that shape its national purposes. It is entirely legitimate to reason, as some do, that Israel's

1:52.1

establishment in the midst of the 20th century horrors of Soviet communism and Nazi tyranny

1:57.1

mean that it is charged with moral sensitivity to the widow, the orphan, the stranger

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