Hey there, it's the NPR Politics Podcast. I'm Ashley Lopez. I cover politics. I'm Hibena

Bustillo and I cover immigration. I'm Deepa Shiverham. I cover the White House. And today on the show,

we want to take a look back at President Trump's immigration policy through his first year back in office.

He meant, I mean, obviously immigration was a key part of Trump's campaign for a second term. He promised to carry out,

in his words, the largest mass deportation of immigrants in U.S. history. But like, let's start

there. Is that something he actually accomplished? So data released from the Department of Homeland

Security this fall shows that they have

deported 605,000 people. That is short of the one million a year goal that Trump did campaign on.

However, the number is most definitely not nothing. And to put it in

context, during the first Trump administration total, he deported 1.5 million people. So in just

his first year back, he has nearly reached half of that.

Well, let's talk about, like, how this has been carried out, like what immigration

enforcement has actually looked like so far.

Yeah, how have you both seen the administration carry this out?

There's two main ways.

The first is a lot of really intense, really almost a militarized approach to what we think of as enforcement or kind of the policing aspect of this.

There has been a big effort from the administration to broadly promote their operations through very cinematic military movie visuals.

There have been clashes with, you know, protesters on the ground and immigration

and customs officers.

We've seen physical violence with arrests happening in immigration courts and even

citizens have gotten caught up in this.

The second way is the cutting off of a lot of legal pathways to come into the United States

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