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Hi, it's me, the O.G. Green Grump, the Grinch.

Listen as I launch a campaign against Christmas cheer,

grilling celebrity guests like chestnuts on an open fire.

They'll try to get my heart to grow a few sizes,

but it's not gonna to work, honey.

Follow Tis the Grinch Holiday Talk Show on the Wundry app, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey everybody we got a great one today you know for a change and this time this time I really mean it because my guests are Joyce Vance and Barbara McQuaid both

brilliant former US attorneys and current professors of law and they are the

perfect duo to kick off my year and review series.

We're going to do one next week with Ann Applebaum and Frank 4 on the geopolitical arena

and won the following week with Molly Jung Fast and Mark Leibovich on the year in politics.

Now Joyce and Barbara agreed to review all the court cases against Trump because I know for me there are just so many that it's been kind of just

hard to keep track of all them between all the federal cases, the state cases, the criminal cases, civil cases.

So we gave it a go and these two are pretty damn spectacular,

so you are really going to enjoy this one, you know, for a change. Now, Rudy Giuliani, of course, is indicted in Georgia and is an unindicted co-conspirator in the January 6th case, but he is such a sleeves bag. A while ago he conceded that he had

defamed Ruby Freeman and Shay Moss. Remember, they are the mother-daughter election workers who both Giuliani and Trump

had accused of using a USB drive to add Biden votes. And we play the audio of Rudy defaming them when he testified to the

Georgia State Senate and it's so disgusting I just want to I want to play it again. You'll hear it again later, but we didn't play Trump

But I want to play it here. So Peter, do you got those lined up.

Yes, sir, ready to go. Okay, do Trump first.

We had at least 18,000 that's on tape.

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