Yankee in Kevin Williamson’s Court | Interview: Colin Woodard

The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

The Dispatch

Politics, News

4.6 • 6.3K Ratings

🗓️ 8 December 2025

⏱️ 58 minutes

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The Remnant coup d’état continues as Kevin Williamson sits down with journalist Colin Woodard to talk about our country’s most deeply seated cultural divisions. Woodard and Williamson cover Texas, the Puritans, Appalachia, Donald Trump’s ethnonationalism, regional Covid-19 trends, and shifting party geography. Shownotes:—Nations Apart: How Clashing Regional Cultures Shattered America—American Nations: A History of the Eleven Rival Regional Cultures of North America—Old Deluder Satan Act of 1647—J.D. Vance’s Claremont speech—Homeland Security “a heritage to be proud of” tweet—Kevin on John Brown for The Dispatch—The Pell Center Nationhood Lab—“Nationhood Lab: The Story of America” report The Remnant is a production of ⁠The Dispatch⁠, a digital media company covering politics, policy, and culture from a non-partisan, conservative perspective. To access all of The Dispatch’s offerings—including access to all of Jonah’s G-File newsletters—⁠click here⁠. If you’d like to remove all ads from your podcast experience, consider becoming a premium Dispatch member ⁠by clicking here⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:57.5	Greetings, dear listeners, this is not Jonah Goldberg.
1:00.0	It's not even Chris Starwall.
1:01.7	Kevin Williamson with another special coup d'etat episode of The Remnant.
1:06.0	Jonah Goldberg is hogtied and gagged in a sub-basement underneath Barney Greengrass in New York City,
1:10.9	but what a man does with his vacation time is his own business.
1:14.2	We've got an interesting conversation for you today with Colin Woodard, author of many books,
1:18.9	including American Nations, and his newest one, Nations Apart.
1:22.5	Colin Woodard, welcome to The Remnant.
1:25.3	Our usual first question for authors on here talking about their books is
1:28.4	what's your book about. But I think we have to rewind with you a little bit and talk about what your
1:32.5	earlier book was about. So before Nations apart, there was American Nations. Could you tell us a little
1:38.3	bit about that very interesting thesis and what the argument is you make in that book?
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