XYZ: The Real Story of How Enigma was Broken with Alan Turing's Nephew Author Dermot Turing. (2019)
William Ramsey Investigates
William Ramsey Investigates
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🗓️ 27 August 2024
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December, 1932: In the bathroom of a Belgian hotel, a French spymaster photographs secret documents – operating instructions of the cipher machine, Enigma. A few weeks later a mathematician in Warsaw begins to decipher the coded communications of the Third Reich and lay the foundations for the code-breaking operation at Bletchley Park. The co-operation between France, Britain and Poland is given the cover name ‘X, Y & Z’. December, 1942: It is the middle of World War II. The Polish code-breakers are in France on the run from the Gestapo. People who know the Enigma secret are not supposed to be in the combat zone for fear of capture so MI6 devises a plan to exfiltrate them. If it goes wrong, if they are caught, they could give away the greatest secret of the war. X, Y & Z describes how French, British and Polish secret services came together to unravel the Enigma machine. It tells of how, under the very noses of the Germans, Enigma code-breaking continued in Vichy France. And how code-breakers from Poland continued their work for Her Majesty’s Secret Service, watching the USSR’s first steps of the Cold War. The people of X, Y and Z were eccentric, colorful and caught up in world events that they could watch not control. This is their story…
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| 0:00.0 | 321. Hi, this is William Ramsey. Welcome to William Ramsey Investigates on tonight's show. I have a very special guest. |
| 0:09.6 | He comes to us from the UK, and he's recently published a book. The beginning of this year, the title of the book is XYZ, The Real Story of How Enigma Was Broken. |
| 0:19.7 | I've read the book. It's an excellent book. |
| 0:21.5 | And it provides background into a very important aspect of World War II involving cryptography. |
| 0:28.0 | And his name may sound familiar. |
| 0:30.8 | His name is Dermott Turing. |
| 0:32.8 | He's a relative of Alan Turing, who was featured kind of in a recent movie, The I Mitation Game |
| 0:39.4 | by starring Benedict Cumberbatch. |
| 0:42.1 | But Mr. Turing is a prolific author. |
| 0:44.3 | He has other books. |
| 0:45.6 | Such titles are The Story of Computing, Prof. Alan Turing Decoded, published 2016. |
| 0:52.0 | Alan Turing, The Life of a Genius, published 2017. He's also involved in a |
| 0:58.7 | historical display at the famous Bletchley Park, and that's available to 2028. I believe it's available |
| 1:07.1 | there. And you can see a lot of the information that he's compiled at his website. |
| 1:11.0 | It's dermat-turring.com, D-E-R-M-O-T-U-R-I-N-G.com. So, Mr. Turing, are you there? |
| 1:18.5 | I'm here, and thank you very much for that very splendid introduction. |
| 1:22.6 | Awesome. Great. Well, I'm delighted that you agreed to the interview. So for people who may not know about your background, |
| 1:29.0 | can you talk a little bit of anything that I might have missed on the intro? |
| 1:31.9 | And what led you to write this book? |
| 1:36.7 | Well, yes, so I'm not a professional historian by background. |
| 1:41.1 | I spent my career in the legal profession, |
| 1:43.9 | but the fact of being |
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