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'X' explores pleasure and pain in a dystopic world

It's Been a Minute

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4.68.8K Ratings

🗓️ 5 July 2022

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

How do freedom and rights intersect with sex, pleasure and the self? It's a question the U.S. is facing in the wake of the Supreme Court's recent decision to overturn Roe v. Wade — and a central theme in writer Davey Davis's new novel. In X, Davis relocates the conflict over these ideas from courts and abortion clinics to queer clubs and BDSM dungeons in a more dystopic version of our present.

In this episode, guest host Anna Sale talks to Davis about why sadism is romantic, how bureaucracy can become a tool of oppression and why bad behavior doesn't make us less human.

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0:00.0

You're listening to It's Been a Minute from NPR.

0:03.2

I'm Anna Sale.

0:04.8

This is my first episode guest hosting It's Been a Minute,

0:08.1

and I'm so excited to be here.

0:10.4

I'm usually the host of WNYC's Death, Sex, and Money,

0:14.5

an interview podcast about the things we think about a lot

0:17.8

and need to talk about more.

0:19.7

Things that are taboo, which is why it is fitting

0:24.0

that my first episode here is filled with taboo.

0:27.5

And a warning that means this conversation might not be suitable

0:30.8

for all listeners.

0:32.2

It contains a frank discussion about sex,

0:34.6

including kink, domination, and sex acts that include some violence.

0:39.8

We are talking about a new novel called X.

0:43.8

If you were describing the book to someone unfamiliar

0:46.8

with the particulars of the scene and the world

0:49.3

that this book inhabits, how would you describe this novel?

0:52.3

Okay, the short version of that is Dyktrama.

0:55.7

That's Davy Davis, the author of X.

0:59.8

It's a noir, quasi-mystery set in the Brooklyn Queer BDSM scene.

1:05.3

X is about a person named Lee who lives in New York.

1:09.0

They are a lifestyle sadist, so they're into SM.

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