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🗓️ 5 August 2025
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It's August 5th. This day in 1944, a crucial moment in World War II history, a series of internment camps are being set up in Texas. Unlike the more widely known camps on the US West Coast, these camps held not only Japanese Americans but also individuals of Japanese, German, and Italian descent from Latin America, who were deported to this country.
Jody, Niki, and Kellie discuss why the US was bringing people into the country just to put them behind fences; what life was like inside Crystal City; and why this story has been largely forgotten.
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| 0:42.2 | Hello and welcome to This Day, a history show from Radiotopia. |
| 0:44.1 | My name is Jody Avergan. |
| 0:52.6 | This day, August 1944, it's the height of the Second World War. |
| 0:55.2 | Many of you listening are aware that on the west coast of the United States, this country set up internment camps where Japanese Americans were forced to |
| 1:00.2 | live in the latter years of the war. We've done a number of episodes on those camps. But let's go |
| 1:06.4 | instead to Texas, to a smaller set of camps and a really fascinating, heartbreaking, and I would |
| 1:12.1 | say largely forgotten story about another set of camps. In these camps, people of Japanese, |
| 1:18.0 | German, and Italian descent were rounded up and put behind barbed wire. But the wrinkle is that |
| 1:23.7 | these people were from other countries, from Latin American countries, who were deported |
| 1:28.2 | to the United States to be put in these camps. That's right. Latin Americans deported to Texas |
| 1:34.0 | and put in camps. Let's talk about the program that brought these folks here, some five or six |
| 1:39.1 | thousand of them and what life was like inside one of the camps. The most notable was a place |
| 1:43.6 | called Crystal City. Here, as always, to discuss Nicole Hammer of Vanderbilt and Kelly Carter Jackson of Wellesley. Hello there. Hello, Jody. Hey there. We collectively know a lot about U.S. history, but every once in a while, we should just admit that we find a story that is just like, whoa, I had no idea. I mean, this is something |
| 2:02.3 | I've written about, something I've taught about, Japanese internment, and I've never come across |
| 2:07.3 | this story before, which is on me, but like it is, it is definitely not a well-known story. |
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