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Never have humans possessed so much weaponry capable of killing so many humans.

And it's a situation that's getting aggravated by the situation in Israel and Palestine and Russia and Ukraine.

And I'm honored to have our friend Matthew Ho on here.

He's ex-marine lieutenant.

I'm sorry, Colonel, what's it?

Colonel? Captain, Captain.

Captain.

Captain. Captain. Captain. It was a long time ago, so I can't do that nearly that many pull-ups anymore, so it doesn't even count anymore.

Well, I watched your eloquent speech briefing on Ukraine at the United Nations Security Council

where you're talking about the escalation ladder. In the context of what's going on around the world

presently, how would you, you know, put the escalation ladder into that?

Well, so the concept of the escalation ladder, and thanks, Sean, for having me on. I appreciate this.

The concept of the escalation ladder

is that in escalation theory, which is based

upon the evidence we have from past conflicts,

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