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Capital Allocators – Inside the Institutional Investment Industry

WTT: A New Twist on an Old Bet with Buffett

Capital Allocators – Inside the Institutional Investment Industry

Ted Seides – Allocator and Asset Management Expert

Investing, Capitalallocation, Business

4.8 β€’ 806 Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 9 July 2025

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Summary

Eighteen years ago, I made a bet with Warren Buffett that pitted hedge funds against the S&P 500. The bet took on a life of its own, and I benefited from it far differently than I imagined at its inception.Β  Almost two decades later, I have an idea for another bet with similar intrigue.

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0:00.0

18 years ago, I made a bet with Warren Buffett that pitted hedge funds against the S&P 500.

0:11.8

The bet took on a life of its own, and I benefited from it far differently than I imagined at its inception.

0:18.9

Almost two decades later, I have an idea for another bet with similar

0:23.7

intrigue. This what Ted's thinking, a new twist on an old bet with Buffett, describes that bet.

0:32.1

On a slow summer day 18 years ago, I began communicating with Warren Buffett about a bet that pitted the performance

0:38.1

of hedge funds against the S&P 500. The suggestion turned into a charitable 10-year wager

0:44.3

from January 1st, 2008 to December 31st, 2017. Carol Loomis announced Buffett's Big Bet in Fortune

0:53.8

magazine. It looked good for hedge funds in the

0:56.8

early years around the global financial crisis, but the market rallied strongly thereafter. By the

1:02.7

time of Berkshire's 2016 annual report, Warren took a victory lap. Lots of virtual ink has been spilled

1:10.7

about what the bet meant.

1:13.2

Warren initially assessed his odds of winning at 60%, but wrote in his 2016 annual letter as if

1:19.2

victory was preordained. I initially called it 85% in our favor. Lots of outcomes could have

1:26.8

happened, but only one did. In retrospect,

1:30.3

I was overconfident, but I caution those who read too much into the results.

1:36.0

Annie Duke calls this resulting, a behavioral bias where people judge the quality of a decision

1:41.7

based on the outcome rather than on the decision process itself.

1:46.5

I still believe the odds were heavily in favor of hedge funds at the time, and an unprecedented

1:51.7

act by the Fed bailed out the market from what could have been a lost decade.

1:57.4

Regardless of cause and effect, the bet led to unanticipated connections, relationships, and experiences.

2:05.2

Warren and I met for dinner nearly every year, typically accompanied by a guest or two.

2:10.6

Those guests included Todd Combs, Ted Weshler, my partner at the time and now Treasury Secretary, Scott Bessent, hedge fund founder

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