WTF is Spiritual Care for the Non-Religious?
Culture Study Podcast
Culture Study Podcast
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🗓️ 2 April 2025
⏱️ 60 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | This is the Culture Study podcast, and I'm Anne Helen Peterson. |
| 0:10.0 | And I'm Vanessa Zoltan. |
| 0:11.8 | I am the co-host of Hot and Bothered, a podcast about rom-coms. |
| 0:17.3 | And Let's Ask Taylor Swift, a podcast that looks closely at the lyrics of Taylor Swift. |
| 0:22.1 | And Anne, most relevant to today, I'm a non-denominational chaplain, and I teach chaplaincy at Harvard Divinity School. |
| 0:29.0 | We came up with this whole idea about spiritual care for the non-religious because you are teaching this class at Harvard Divinity School right now. So can you tell us |
| 0:40.1 | a little bit about that class and how it came to be? Yeah, it's really exciting because I started at |
| 0:47.2 | divinity school about 15 years ago. And as a non-religious person in divinity school, there just were |
| 0:53.0 | no pathways for a career, |
| 0:55.4 | even though I was like, this is necessary. People have, people get married. People have grief |
| 1:01.5 | and people die who don't believe in God and don't want to be part of a community. So we need atheist |
| 1:07.7 | chaplains. In this moment where, you know, Harvard is hiring someone specifically to teach chaplains how to deliver spiritual care for non-religious people feels like a really big step toward acknowledging that, you know, one third of Americans don't believe in traditional religion. People |
| 1:28.8 | are going to church less and less. And there's, you know, which you've talked about a lot, |
| 1:33.0 | there's the rise of loneliness and isolation. And I think especially in this moment, we need |
| 1:38.0 | community more than ever. And so I'm really excited to be the one who's teaching this class, |
| 1:43.1 | but I'm more, I'm just excited that's like an institution that goes back to the 17th century and is like very stodgy. |
| 1:51.8 | It's like, no, no, this is now a skill that we need chaplains to have of taking care of non-religious people. |
| 1:58.5 | Is there anything? |
| 2:00.3 | Like I think of the word chaplain and it just has this incredible |
| 2:03.9 | connotation of Christianity. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Why is that? Also, even just like div schools, |
| 2:12.5 | right, which is how people talk about divinity school. Like they, lots of people go to div school |
| 2:16.9 | who do not want to become like religious leaders. |
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