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Writing (and Rewriting) Russian History

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🗓️ 26 February 2025

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Busting myths about Russian history

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0:00.0

This is on the media's midweek podcast. I'm Brooke Gladstone. This week we mark a grim milestone,

0:10.1

the three-year anniversary of the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Days before the war began,

0:16.0

Russian President Vladimir Putin recited an old essay on the quote, historical unity of Russians and Ukrainians,

0:24.0

wherein he rewrote the past.

0:26.2

And this week started with President Putin quoting Lenin in saying that Ukraine was a fake country created by Lenin.

0:34.6

President Putin laying out his case that Ukraine is always part of Russia historically,

0:40.8

cultural, ethnic, religious ties that go way back in history,

0:45.8

that it's not a real country that is naturally part of a bigger Russia.

0:50.4

A notion featured heavily on Russian news to justify the war, because Kiev is the mother of all

0:57.5

Russian cities. But this is not new fiction. In fact, Mikhail Ziegar has traced it back at least as far as

1:05.7

the Middle Ages. He's a Russian investigative journalist and founding editor-in-chief of the independent

1:11.3

Russian TV channel, Raine, suspended for its war coverage and now based in the Netherlands.

1:17.4

He's also the author of the book, War and Punishment.

1:21.6

Actually, when I spoke to him back in 2023, he told me that the history starts in a Europe that would be familiar to fans of Game of Thrones,

1:31.3

with empires and religions vying for power and for land.

1:35.3

My mission was to start writing completely different version of Russian history,

1:40.3

because unfortunately we have never had any kind of history of Russian people or

1:46.6

peoples of Russia. It has always been written by official historians who were serving the state

1:53.6

and they were much more propagandists than historians.

1:57.1

Your book explores seven myths about the relationship between Ukraine and Russia.

2:02.6

We won't get to them all, but we'll start with the most crucial one probably, unity,

2:07.6

which was penned in a paper called Synopsis by a German monk 300 years ago.

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