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Writer Jesse Singal talks to Quillette's Jonathan Kay about the reaction to his controversial cover story for The Atlantic on trans adolescents

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Society & Culture, Politics, News, Science, News Commentary

4.6917 Ratings

🗓️ 11 January 2019

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Jesse Singal, a New York-based writer, talks to Quillette's Jonathan Kay about the reaction to his controversial cover story for The Atlantic about transgender adolescents. Among other things, Singal interviewed a number of adults who have "detransitioned"—had a change of heart about switching genders after undergoing irreversible medical procedures. This provoked accusations of "transphobia" from trans activists, who argued that highlighting these cases would make parents and mental health professionals needlessly sceptical when reacting to children's self-diagnosis of gender dysphoria and make it more difficult for those children to get medical treatment. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Colette podcast. My name is Claire Lehman and I am editor and chief of Colette.

0:09.0

Colette is where Free Thought lives. We are an independent grassroots platform for

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heterodox ideas and fearless commentary. Our podcast is a team effort and is

0:18.6

jointly hosted by myself, Associate Editor Toby Young, and Canadian Editor Jonathan Kay.

0:24.0

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0:35.0

This is Jonathan Kay, Canadian editor for Qualette.com.

0:40.0

In recent months academics, activists and journalists have put a spotlight on an unsettling

0:45.5

aspect of the otherwise welcome trend toward the increased acceptance of transgender individuals

0:51.0

in Western societies.

0:53.0

As many clinicians have noted, there has been a sharp uptick in the diagnosis of gender dysphoria,

0:59.0

the clinical term that describes transgenderism among children. This is controversial because many

1:04.7

transactivists suspect that concerns expressed over this issue are really just a

1:09.8

veiled form of transphobia. One journalist who has covered this extensively is New York-based

1:15.7

writer Jesse Single, whose summer cover story in the Atlantic magazine entitled

1:20.7

When Children Say Their Transgender is still being talked about.

1:25.0

In mid-December, I spoke with Jesse at the library of the Yale Club in New York City.

1:30.0

Here are excerpts from our conversation.

1:33.0

Jesse, it's been a few months now since your cover story appeared in Atlantic magazine.

1:39.0

You, as you predicted, got a lot of praise and a lot of criticism because the issue is

1:46.0

controversial recently the New York Times got involved in it could you describe a

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