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Talk Easy with Sam Fragoso

Writer Hilton Als on Prince and ‘What Joan Didion Means’

Talk Easy with Sam Fragoso

Lemonada Media

Society & Culture, Film Interviews, Tv & Film

4.81.2K Ratings

🗓️ 22 December 2024

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

For the holiday week, we’re revisiting one of our favorite conversations with Pulitzer Prize-winning writer and critic Hilton Als.

At the top, we unpack his approach to writing profiles (5:50), inspired by the words of photographer Diane Arbus (6:10), and how he captured Prince in a new, two-part memoir entitled My Pinup (7:55). Then, Als reflects on his upbringing in Brownsville, Brooklyn (10:25), a timely passage from his 2020 essay "Homecoming" (14:40), and formative works by writers Adrienne Kennedy (20:58) and the late Joan Didion (27:05).

On the back-half, we discuss the interplay of memory and writing (36:38), Hilton’s writing routine (40:55), his sources of hope today (44:30), and to close, a dialogue from Jean Rhys’ unfinished autobiography Smile Please (48:25).

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Lemonada. This is Talk Easy. I'm Sam Fregoso. Welcome to the show.

1:12.8

Today, I am joined by writer Hilton Ailes. He won the Pulitzer Prize for criticism in 2017 for his work at The New Yorker,

1:15.6

where he's been on staff since 1994.

1:19.3

In his three decades at the magazine,

1:21.5

he's written seminal profiles of Tony Morrison,

1:24.9

Maggie Nelson,

1:26.1

and the late Andre Leon Talley. Since 2012, he's been the magazine's

1:31.3

lead theater critic. When he's not writing for the New Yorker, he's writing for himself.

1:37.0

He's authored a handful of books, including The Women, White Girls, and his latest My Pinup,

1:47.6

an exploration of desire, sexuality, race,

1:55.0

and prints. He does all that in less than 50 pages in this new novella, and it's fairly characteristic of Hilton's work, which is marked by a kind of expansiveness, entwining memoir with literary criticism.

2:04.0

Hilton has taken these qualities, usually reserved for the page,

2:08.0

and recently brought them to the Hammer Museum,

2:10.6

where he's organized a new exhibition titled Joan Didion, What She Means.

2:16.3

It's a stirring portrait of the late author, featuring more than

2:19.9

200 works of painting, photography, sculpture, video, and footage from a number of films for which

2:27.4

Didion authored screenplays. For today, Hilton and I, of course, unpack these new projects around

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