All right. Welcome listeners to episode 90 of Know Your Enemy. I'm Matt

Sitman, your podcast co-host. I'm here as always with my great friend Sam

of the bell. Hi Matt. Hey Sam, how are you doing today? I'm fine. It's a

beautiful day in Brooklyn. It's fine. It's a beautiful day in Brooklyn.

It's true.

It is a beautiful day in New York City today

and we are recording this introduction

for a really fantastic conversation we had

with Ronnie Grinberg about her just published book,

write like a man, Jewish masculinity and the New York intellectuals.

So definitely not a topic we're all interested in.

Men, Jews thinking?

New York City?

Couldn't be us.

Ronnie was a really fantastic guest.

She was very game, very fun to talk to.

And if you're not familiar with her work, she is an assistant professor of history and a core faculty member in the Schusterman Center for Judaic in Israel Studies at the University of Oklahoma.

We just mentioned her book, Write Like a Man. Her articles and essays have been, one is called

the First Lady of Neoconservatism, Midge Dector and the Politics of Family Values,

for example, in the Journal of American History. So we talked to Ronnie about her book,

where the book came from,

and it was really just a great conversation.

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