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Wrath and Love: Do the Old and New Testaments Have the Same God? | Prof. Paul Gondreau

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Christianity, Society & Culture, Catholic Intellectual Tradition, Catholic, Philosophy, Religion & Spirituality, Thomism, Catholicism

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🗓️ 14 March 2023

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Professor Paul Gondreau discusses the perceived dichotomy between the wrathful God of the Old Testament and the loving God of the New Testament, arguing that they are the same God, with the differences in portrayal being due to the principle of accommodation and the incremental moral development of humanity.


This lecture was given on January 31, 2023, at Yale University.

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About the speaker:

Paul Gondreau earned his doctorate in sacred theology from the University of Fribourg, Switzerland, writing under the renowned Thomist scholar Rev. Jean-Pierre Torrell, O.P. He is professor of theology at Providence College in Rhode Island, where he teaches/has taught courses on marriage, Christology, the theology of Thomas Aquinas, the Church, the Eucharist, the Sacraments, and the Catholic thought of J.R.R. Tolkien. He has a published manuscript on Christ's human passions in the theology of St. Thomas Aquinas and has published numerous essays in the area of Thomistic Christology, Thomistic anthropology, a Thomistic account of human sexuality, and a Thomistic theology of disability. He is associate editor of the theological journal Nova et Vetera, and has served as a consultant to the USCCB's committee on marriage and family.

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Wrath and love, do the Old and New Testaments have the same God.

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The issue that we're addressing, the image of a harsh, wrathful God in the Old Testament,

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presents a challenge for those seeking to understand the biblical God, especially in a culture like ours that tends to see God as a big

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celestial smiley face. How can a big smiley face in heaven be wrathful, unhinged, an inciter of violence,

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etc.? The former must give way to the latter.

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Even stronger is the challenge presented by the so-called new atheists who point to the

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Old Testament in order to disparage belief in the biblical God and as evidence that God does not

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exist.

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And they do not mince words. One notable among them, Richard Dawkins, calls God

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a moral monster, as well as a child abuser, a malevolent bully, and a warmonger who gives commands

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for ethnic cleansing and bloodthirsty massacres with xenophobic relish.

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Further, he is petty, a control freak and vindictive.

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Strong words, to be sure.

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I should also note that while issues with the God of wrath of the Old Testament are in a sense

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quintessentially modern, they're at the same time

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as ancient as the church itself. There was an ancient heresy known as Marseonism that held

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that the harsh God of wrath and of strict justice of the Old Testament and the God of mercy

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