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All right. Patrick Royce, every Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday here on Mackie and Judd and

the Skornorth YouTube channel.

Patrick, Judd made it official on yesterday's Mackey and Judd show.

He officially called for the heads of both Rick Spielman and Mike Zimmer.

Are you there yet?

I thought he called for the head of Clint Kubiak.

I didn't know he'd gone to both the coach and...

I'll let Judd explain himself here.

Oh, in print, I called for Clint.

But then I'm like, but for the podcast, that's not enough.

Okay.

So then I decided to see, multi-platform, Pat,

means that you got to have the different takes on the different platforms.

You got to sort of...

You got to fire, you got to fire someone on each platform, right?

That's what you have to do.

I think what we have to realize is I don't see these two guys being joined at the hip at all, do you?

As far as emotionally in running the operation,

I don't think Frey Spellman's any closer to Mike Zimmer than he was to

Les Fraser.

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